Bad accident at Barber - Corner-Carvers Forums

weargle · 05-22-09, 10:38 PM

http://www.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/...ts_park/73776/

Two people were killed in what may be described as a freak accident.

It happened about 10:15 a.m. CT today at Barber Motorsports Park.

A spokesperson for the Birmingham Police Department says a worker at the track noticed a dead bird on the track.

The person attempted to remove it off the track, when a motorcycle racer doing time trials struck the worker.

Both the racer and the worker were killed on the scene.

There’s no word on the identities of the victims.

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I don't know why a corner worker would go onto a hot track, but the result sucks.

King Matt · 05-22-09, 10:55 PM

A little more info from RRW:

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36634

gt40 · 05-23-09, 08:41 AM

What was a track worker doing on a hot track?

TWI · 05-23-09, 08:42 AM

Sounds like a horrible, horrible story. To summarize the version posted in the thread linked below, the report is that a corner worker went onto hot track to remove "debris" (either a knee puck or a dead bird, depending on the source), slips on track, rider crests hill at +/- 100mph and center punches the corner worker. Both dead at the scene.

I was not there and do not personally know, to my knowledge, anyone who was there but the account linked below is from someone who was apparently right behind the incident. I am pulling the quoted text that I initially posted in case there is a change in the posting but will leave the link.

This is surely a tough time for two different families.

Thread responded to by a rider who was immediately behind the incident

SalKhan · 05-23-09, 02:13 PM

Tekno Viking needs a lesson in conveying this type of story without sounding like a crass assfuck. "Got wasted" "Got destroyed" "Hope they televise my interview" - I want to slap him across the face with a mallet.

Really a horrible situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enduro Racer

Sounds like a horrible, horrible story. To summarize the version posted in the thread linked below, the report is that a corner worker went onto hot track to remove "debris" (either a knee puck or a dead bird, depending on the source), slips on track, rider crests hill at +/- 100mph and center punches the corner worker. Both dead at the scene.

I was not there and do not personally know, to my knowledge, anyone who was there but the account linked below is from someone who was apparently right behind the incident. I am pulling the quoted text that I initially posted in case there is a change in the posting but will leave the link.

This is surely a tough time for two different families.

Thread responded to by a rider who was immediately behind the incident

Rx3 · 05-23-09, 02:29 PM

I have two friends racing down there in the same class as the rider that was in the accident. If I didn't break my clavicle at VIR, I would probably be down there racing this weekend.

I talked to them this morning just before gridding up for the enduro. Everyone is a bit shaken up. They said the track was green, there were no red flags out.

Normal procedure is for a debris flag (for small debris), and it's the riders job to get around the debris. We had a similar situation at other races this year but it was handled with the flags. Nobody ever tried to run out on the track before (at least to my knowledge). Typically serious/large debris they would red flag it, especially for a practice session (which is when the accident happened).

I'm not sure why the corner worker decided to run out on a hot track. There might be more to it, but as of now I don't have a whole lot of detail. I might hear more on Monday or Tuesday. I really don't want to speculate too much.

Thoughts and prayers to those that were lost, and their families.

TWI · 05-23-09, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SalKhan

Tekno Viking needs a lesson in conveying this type of story

Agreed, that is why I pulled it out of my post. Not saying his account of this are right or wrong, but his choice of words is a little difficult to understand considering the subject.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rx3

Normal procedure is for a debris flag (for small debris), and it's the riders job to get around the debris. We had a similar situation at other races this year but it was handled with the flags. Nobody ever tried to run out on the track before (at least to my knowledge). Typically serious/large debris they would red flag it, especially for a practice session (which is when the accident happened).

I'm not sure why the corner worker decided to run out on a hot track. There might be more to it, but as of now I don't have a whole lot of detail. I might hear more on Monday or Tuesday. I really don't want to speculate too much.

Thoughts and prayers to those that were lost, and their families.

Agreed with all of that as well. It is a horrible situation that is difficult to understand exactly how it happened. I am stuck between curiosity about the situation (with the hope of keeping myself out of similar circumstances in the future) and a desire to just forget about it.

05-22-09, 10:38 PM	#1
weargle VTAK can nevAr loose Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,318	Bad accident at Barber http://www.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/...ts_park/73776/ Two people were killed in what may be described as a freak accident. It happened about 10:15 a.m. CT today at Barber Motorsports Park. A spokesperson for the Birmingham Police Department says a worker at the track noticed a dead bird on the track. The person attempted to remove it off the track, when a motorcycle racer doing time trials struck the worker. Both the racer and the worker were killed on the scene. There’s no word on the identities of the victims. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't know why a corner worker would go onto a hot track, but the result sucks. __________________ Wes If you buy a hammer at Harbor Freight, what does it turn into?

05-22-09, 10:55 PM	#2
King Matt Open wheelin' Join Date: May 2003 Location: 37 Miles from Road America Posts: 2,489	A little more info from RRW: http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36634 __________________ Matt King 97 Citation XTC-41 Formula Vee CENDIV #19 “Ignorance is a powerful tool if applied at the right time, even usually surpassing knowledge.” --E.J. Potter

05-23-09, 08:41 AM	#3
gt40 Rat's Nest (ask Adam...) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 2,967	What was a track worker doing on a hot track? __________________ -- Robert Si vos can lego is , vos es quoque puteus erudio.

05-23-09, 08:42 AM	#4
TWI Formerly Enduro Racer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 182	Sounds like a horrible, horrible story. To summarize the version posted in the thread linked below, the report is that a corner worker went onto hot track to remove "debris" (either a knee puck or a dead bird, depending on the source), slips on track, rider crests hill at +/- 100mph and center punches the corner worker. Both dead at the scene. I was not there and do not personally know, to my knowledge, anyone who was there but the account linked below is from someone who was apparently right behind the incident. I am pulling the quoted text that I initially posted in case there is a change in the posting but will leave the link. This is surely a tough time for two different families. Thread responded to by a rider who was immediately behind the incident Last edited by TWI; 05-23-09 at 09:11 AM. Reason: edit to remove quoted text

05-23-09, 02:29 PM	#6
Rx3 nnneaaaarrrrooooouuuwwww Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Buffalo, N.Y. Posts: 1,368	I have two friends racing down there in the same class as the rider that was in the accident. If I didn't break my clavicle at VIR, I would probably be down there racing this weekend. I talked to them this morning just before gridding up for the enduro. Everyone is a bit shaken up. They said the track was green, there were no red flags out. Normal procedure is for a debris flag (for small debris), and it's the riders job to get around the debris. We had a similar situation at other races this year but it was handled with the flags. Nobody ever tried to run out on the track before (at least to my knowledge). Typically serious/large debris they would red flag it, especially for a practice session (which is when the accident happened). I'm not sure why the corner worker decided to run out on a hot track. There might be more to it, but as of now I don't have a whole lot of detail. I might hear more on Monday or Tuesday. I really don't want to speculate too much. Thoughts and prayers to those that were lost, and their families. __________________ 1997 DSM GSX2002 Yamaha YZF-R1**2005 Kawasaki ZX-6RR** WERA #88 Novice Last edited by Rx3; 05-23-09 at 02:33 PM. Reason: Paragraphs.

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